No Spin ZONE,,, HAS SPUN!!!!

                            


White House Slams Rev. Franklin Graham for Comment about Issues Surrounding President Obama's Birth         yesterday

I spent some time on the Fox blog the other day over the above headline.  Among the calling of names to believers as well as Fox viewers, right wingers, birth-ers, that seemed uncased for the talking points. Parts went against the Ministries of the Christian faith who have a money making ministry. And they didn't seem to miss a one now appearing on TV on their list. But obviously they don't read to much of the Word. One thought came to mind about when some members of Mose's family came against him, over who he had married even, to boot. God has His hedge on His people and the "Seed of Abraham" promise.  His word does not come back void. One comment went to calling Graham not a genuine Christian. Along with bearing false witness against President Obama and his faith. Then the rest can be picked out from the two reply comments I have following this opening statement.

A blogger reply:
“A genuine Christian? Seriously? In the first place, to love your fellow man is not to accept them in their sin. We are to be discerning as well as loving. As I noted earlier, Jesus and the Apostles were killed (one banished to Patmos) for declaring and living their faith in the open. Obama hides all vestiges of Christianity when he has the opportunity, claims the U.S. is not a Christian nation, listened to Rev Wright spew hate for "white America" for 20 years, voted 3 times as a State Senator to allow babies who survived abortions to not be given medical care so as to die, takes "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance, and gives millions of dollars of our tax money to his Union and banker friends while giving them waivers to Obamacare. I could go on and on. As for you, being a Christian does not mean to be blind to an other's sin. We cannot judge the spiritual outcome, only God can. But we are to be wise and not all-inclusive dolts. Christianity is divisive because it requires one to choose to side with the God who gave His son for our sins. I have seen no evidence that Obama has chosen to glorify God/Jesus in any way, shape or form.”

My reply:

Graham hasn't bore any false witness, its also says if a Brother is in error to guide them back. The Word says, by their fruits your know who they serve. President Obama first actions were towards abortion. (I've not seen him return that to what is God's will) Graham and any other ministry that has money, shouldn't be what one looks at, one should be listening to the message. One thing them ministries know its not theirs, its the LORD's. President Obama isn't Israel's friend for sure. It's all their land, flat out. That's in the Word too! Graham isn't in error in anything he has said. (suggestion isn't wrong) The proof of a Christian is a changed life, and no fear to proclaim His Name in front of anyone.  I'm sure them ministries pray for the President.

I might add today:

Franklin Graham did state only God knows ones heart. And I will add if they are his or not. Graham statement about going to Church does not save you. And even more statements towards what people think about being right with God in acclaim statements that make them feel ok. More and more what I have blogged about in the past is all coming to pass more and more these days. Graham gave the message even more so on more appearances on Fox programs yesterday.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4662216/is-there-a-hell

"Is there a Hell"    "Gandhi "  "Universalism"

Bill O'Reilly then weighed in the last few days on some faith issues. On the response letters segment last evening he did spin in the talk about "Is there a Hell" topic. Bill knows there is a hell and he was questioning a man whom seems to believe in universalism. Bill lays out some facts about one needs to repent, free will and judgement. Though not defined, open for a spin towards his direction on the topic.

(I've noticed Bill to be doing this more of late, The View program he tried to spin out of a what he had said that caused the walk out. He thought folks knew him enough to know what he really meant with out having to add the needed phase for the Left to sealed lipped.) He tried to spin the "I'm sorry part of it.

Bill talks about Gandhi as surely he will be in heaven. Bill goes on a bit in depth over this call. And even adding not everyone had a chance to hear about Jesus. He says young children, them that died in the Nazi cause of the Holocaust.  Then upon a lady's response (letter segment) at the end of yesterday's show. Bill spins it!  Her letter ended in Jesus said they come through Me. Implying about salvation. Bill spun it as that was what they had covered in the segment. Missing the topic in which he stated towards why he felt Gandhi will be in Heaven.

Bill, I hope will see this. I will point out here with some logic and the Scriptures. Bill had been talking about them who he thought would not go to hell. Among them were children and the unborn and them whom done some really good works on the earth in history. There is no Scriptures in the Bible towards children or the unborn in going to hell. Pointing towards the parents in their being a believer in Christ or not. I have to believe that a child when they come of age for accountability then they are held accountable in being saved or not. Gandhi surely heard the Gospel message in his life. India is famous having many gods and then include the One, I serve as just another one and seem to show respect like actions for them all. The lady's letter was pointing to this fact. Jesus is the only way to the Father, the only way to salvation, to Heaven. In Paul's writing he points out many things about them that stay in their sin, not surrendered to the ways of the LORD, will be lost. Read Romans and Galatians please!

Rom 10:9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 11:21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

The natural branches here are the Jews in which we believers in Christ were branched from that tree. The Jews are God's chosen people, thru Christ we become His.

1Jn 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 





Eph 5:1Be ye therefore imitators of God, as beloved children;
Eph 5:2and walk in love, even as Christ also loved you, and gave himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for an odor of a sweet smell.
Eph 5:3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4nor filthiness, nor foolish talking, or jesting, which are not befitting: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5For this ye know of a surety, that no fornicator, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.
Eph 5:6Let no man deceive you with empty words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the sons of disobedience.
Eph 5:7Be not ye therefore partakers with them;
Eph 5:8For ye were once darkness, but are now light in the Lord: walk as children of light
Eph 5:9(for the fruit of the light is in all goodness and righteousness and truth),
Eph 5:10proving what is well-pleasing unto the Lord;
Eph 5:11and have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even reprove them;
Eph 5:12or the things which are done by them in secret it is a shame even to speak of.
Eph 5:13But all things when they are reproved are made manifest by the light: for everything that is made manifest is light.
Eph 5:14Wherefore he saith, Awake, thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall shine upon thee.
Eph 5:15Look therefore carefully how ye walk, not as unwise, but as wise;
Eph 5:16redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17Wherefore be ye not foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is.
Eph 5:18And be not drunken with wine, wherein is riot, but be filled with the Spirit;


Then what Peter said:  2Pe 2:1But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2Pe 2:2And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2Pe 2:3And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
2Pe 2:4For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2Pe 2:5And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
2Pe 2:6And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
2Pe 2:7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
2Pe 2:8(For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
  2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
Bill to put more "Light" on the subject. Think about what Jesus said here in Matthew 7:16-23.
How one can discern if one is a follower of Jesus. Its not one being just a "good person" as which you enter Gandhi in as being that type. Inciting this qualifies him as being spared by God to inherit eternal life in Heaven.

This type of "spin" is not what the Bible says at all. Nor the Doctrine you read can replace what the Blood of Christ has done. John 3:16 is the ONLY WAY to Heaven. You have did nothing more but side with the universalism belief of the man you interviewed. There's no "LOOP HOLE" in salvation. The other Scipture's even take it farther, it seems a relationship is involved in truly knowing Christ.

There is no justification for the choice to not make Jesus one's Lord and Savior. There cannot be and you in the interview brought some of them things forth in the "repent" statement. Gandhi or any one else who has not did this does not get a free pass. Or His Word means nothing. And as Franklin Graham said, only God knows ones heart, and saying that, He only knows what they have confessed even if it was their last breath.

Good deeds or works can not earn what has been given as a gift. Faith is what is behind and the reason the action of good works has been done, and in Jesus Name. The love for what Jesus did for us is what produces that type of fruit. It takes acts of obedience to empower the Holy Spirit,.That is how doing what Jesus did is fueled.

Mat 7:16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Mat 7:22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Bill, as the next Scriptures explain it is God's will that all men come to the knowledge of the Truth and be saved. So if its God's will that folks chose to receive Christ as their Lord and Savior. Then He is quite able to make sure everyone has that chance to do it.   I would have to belive they would have heard the "Good News." It says that every knee will bow and confess Him Lord in the end judgement, even Satan. With that being the case, it would seem to me them souls will be admitting what they choose to reject before in human form. Sin is easy to define, it is not doing God's will. That verse in Timothy shows one sin, that if not done in one's lifetime then it has no chance to ask for repentance. It is finished.

Ti 2:3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

So I hope you see your spin here. You say one must repent, which is correct. That meaning coming to Christ to be saved and then BORN-AGAIN. By putting the statement towards Gandhi in how he lived his life and his accomplishments in life. Your direction pointed Gandhi as a non-believer, then placing his salvation into as of doing good works. Which is not equal to the "Price that was Paid" towards one's salvation.  Saying that is not only unbiblical it also embrances unversalism. Which makes your stance as equal to the unversalism man you interviewed. "The No Spin Zone" has spun out with that one. I'd like to see you make that right. I'm a big fan of the "The Factor" don't get me wrong. But lets get the facts right. What the Word says is the Truth!